Discussions of the Kind That I Stimulated By My First Post

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Discussions of the kind that I stimulated by my suggestions on Monday (about what Congress might do) reveal widely different assumptions about the number and type of debtors that will default. Shouldn’t we look for the data? The data might keep conservatives from falling off the cliff to the right and the liberals from falling off on the other side- at last that is my hope. So who are the debtors and how many will default? Those are the questions for investors, legislators and lenders. But the answers are not easy to find, and, with incomplete data, each of us is the captive of his political bias. What about the defaulting debt and about the deserts of the debtors (Fools all? Every one defrauded?)

THE INVESTORS: HOW MANY WILL DEFAULT?

Everyday one sees bits of data in the financial press about "default
rates in California (or Florida or Michigan) for mortgages written in
2006." The next day’s paper will bring data that cannot be easily
compared with the first day’s data, e.g. "percentage of sub prime loans
that are in foreclosure in Michigan or in Riverside County in Calif."
On the third day the press will tell us that even sophisticated owners
of this debt such as Citi or Merrill are uncertain about the long term
default rate. If the ultimate default rates on Alt-A and sup prime
loans top out at 15% of all loans, the game for investors is much
different than if 80% of this debt goes bad.

Surely there will be bargains as banks unload their toxic debt at
bargain prices. Driven in part by regulators’ uneasiness about junk
debt on banks’ balance sheets, banks have often sold such debt at what
later proved to be improvident prices. But, of course, if the default
rate proves as high as some suggest, this time would be different and
the price will not be favorable to the buyers.

THE LEGISLATORS: WHO WILL DEFAULT?

Legislators and others inclined to spend public funds in aid of some
of the debtors, need to know not only how much debt will go bad but
also about the debtors’ comparative worthiness. Consider a few
stereotypes.

Least deserving of help are those who have bought properties not to
occupy but as investments in hot markets with the intention of selling
the properties at a gain in a short time. Even the most generous would
say that these people have made a bet, and should live with the
consequences. I doubt anyone will favor bailouts for these debtors.

Next are people who knowingly took on too much debt to buy a new
house in 2005 and are now unable to make their payments. As an act of
enlightened self interest their mortgagees might want to modify their
mortgages, but most of us would not want our taxes bailing them out. By
hypothesis no broker’s fraud induced them to borrow, and they have
lived in their new places only a couple of years, so the mortgagee is
not snatching a treasured homestead out from under its long term owners.

Home equity borrowers’ long occupancy of their homes makes them more
appealing candidates for help. There will be no movies about a
mortgagor getting tossed from a newly purchased $700,000 house, but a
debtor–even a foolish debtor–arouses instinctive sympathy when he is
about to lose the house in which he raised a family.

All of these stereotypical debtors are distributed along a scale of
blameworthiness from gullible, ignorant and innocent to clever, knowing
and greedy. While there are some determined Darwinians who would give
nothing even to the most pitiful and others so open-handed that they
would give to all, most who are disposed to give anything would find
the least blameworthy, most ignorant and gullible to be the most
deserving of help. For this group, who is willing to help some but not
all, one would need some way to approximate the blameworthiness of the
debtors as a whole. Are 90% poor naifs who were duped by brokers? Or
are 90% merely disappointed bettors who, with full understanding of the
possibilities and consequences, reached too far?

Here is what I want to hear–

For the investors: Ten years from now, how many of the sup prime mortgages written in 2006 will have escaped default?

For the helpers: What is the distribution of defaulting debtors on the blameworthy scale?

Comments

2 responses to “Discussions of the Kind That I Stimulated By My First Post”

  1. Doug Avatar
    Doug

    If I’m understanding this post correctly, Mr. White believes all possible responses to the crisis will benefit from better, more transparent information. I agree. Indeed, I agree so much that I re-read Mr. White’s previous post that, among other things, extolled a Ron Paul approach that lets the chips fall where they may while castigating a variety of Congressional approaches that, among other things, would go a long ways toward ensuring that these financial markets operated with better, more transparent information.
    So, it would appear that Mr. White’s libertarian philosophy calls for better information but just doesn’t want to incur any government-imposed costs in support of that information.

  2. Jason Kilborn Avatar

    Why do we have to play the blame game again and again? Haven’t Sullivan, Warren & Westbrook (and many others recently in Europe) proven time and again that the overwhelming majority of cases that end up in distress are there not because of foolish gambles, but because of unforeseen income interruptions? Even in the cases of the most foolish debtors, there’s plenty of blame to spread around to the brokers, lenders, and investors who facilitated if not caused this mess. Whatever our view of the blame, though, the bottom line is that someone has to take a haircut–the debtors are just not able to pay. Rather than looking back for blame, shouldn’t we instead look forward and find the most reasonable solution going forward? It seems to me that the biggest part of the problem now is lenders’/servicers’ inability or unwillingness to accept hard reality and renegotiate something reasonable to avoid even greater losses to lenders, investors, communities, and the economy when a wave of foreclosures crashes over the country. Bankruptcy law is the most effective mechanism, it seems to me, for overcoming this irresponsible intransigence (this is the primary policy objective of the new personal insolvency laws in Europe).
    No one is advocating giving anyone here a free ride for their foolish real estate investment decisions. We’re advocating a more even-handed negotiation, where the lenders and investors involved have to face facts, accept that an income interruptions has undermined the borrower’s ability to service the loan (as is usually the case), the value of the property is the only protection they have, and negotiate on that basis, rather than on the basis of an income expectation and valuation (a few months or a few years ago) that proved to be wrong. I wouldn’t think that we need to bend over backwards just to keep people in their homes (former CreditSlips blogger Melissa Jacoby has a great recent paper on this point coming out in Fordham Law Review, see http://ssrn.com/abstract=1074442). But if a reality check would lead to a negotiated soft landing for the borrower and the community (and arguably a mitigation of losses for lenders and investors), why should we resist that route because of one of the parties’ foolishness in retrospect?
    I guess I just don’t understand what use it is to say “you foolish borrowers have to lie in the bed that you made” when scores of folks are losing their homes, dragging down property values and the general economy (indeed, the world economy, it seems). Why not acknowledge that every participant in these sour deals contributed to the problem and has a responsibility to negotiate a solution that minimizes negative externalities?