Does This Mean We Will Be Getting a Pepper Spray Fee?

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ATM theft in South Africa has gotten so bad that some ATMs are being weaponized with pepper spray to deter thieves. If the ATM detects someone trying to tamper with it, the spray is released. These ATMs apparently can spray not only would-be bad guys but also hapless ATM technicians who are just trying to fix the darn thing. In the technician incident, the spray spread through the shopping mall where the ATM was located.

Pepper spray in ATMs — what could go wrong there? If this idea comes to the United States, I can just see it now on my bank statement: "$20.00 — Pepper Spray Fee."

Hat tip to my colleague, Andy Morriss, for pointing me toward this story.

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6 responses to “Does This Mean We Will Be Getting a Pepper Spray Fee?”

  1. AMC Avatar
    AMC

    Although not pepper spray related – this is a hot topic:
    Friday, the Fifth Circuit has joined the Eighth (Frederickson) and the Tenth (Lanning) in finding “projected disposable income” to be forward looking in Chapter 13s:
    http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/08/08-20066-CV0.wpd.pdf
    Take that Kagenveama! (I hate unpronouncable authority. You hear me, Kawaauhau? I’m talkin’ to you.)

  2. Jonathan Hendry Avatar
    Jonathan Hendry

    In the US, it’d be a Taser.

  3. AMC Avatar
    AMC

    I accidently mis-typed my PIN today
    and was then drenched with pepper spray.
    If I put my card in backwards tomorrow
    A quick taser shot will add to my sorrow.
    But someday that pain will finally go away
    unlike the spray-shot fees I’ll have to pay.
    The felony charges will probably be dropped
    It’s compound interest that’s never stopped.

  4. AMC Avatar
    AMC

    After the Fifth Circuit’s decision in Nowlin on Friday, we get Turner out of the 7th Circuit (Posner writing the opinion) also holding that projected disposable income is forward looking, this time, on the expenses of surrendered real estate.
    http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/PC0TBXRQ.pdf
    Sorry to gum up this important pepper spray issue….

  5. AMC Avatar
    AMC

    That Turner link doesn’t work and appears to change – so here is a link to the link to the Turner opinion that looks stable:
    http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx?caseno=08-2163&submit=showdkt

  6. Adam Levitin Avatar

    Come on Bob. What kind of a bank are you running? Some do-gooder credit union or community bank? If you ever want to become too-big-to-fail, you’re going to have to do better than a simple pepper spray fee. At lest tack on separate pepper spray reloading and maintenance fees. But why stop there? There’s more you can do. How about this for starters:
    ATM Security Fee: $1.99/ATM transaction (defining ATM transaction as every time you do a separate operation on the ATM) plus an $4.99/monthly fee regardless of usage
    ATM Monitoring Fee: $2.99/month plus $.99/withdrawal
    ATM Privacy Maintenance Fee: $.99/month plus $.99/transaction (as defined above)
    ATM Balance Check Fee (for checking your balance at the ATM): $.99
    ATM PIN Code Fee: $.99/transaction (for using a PIN to access the ATM)
    (I’ve made a much longer such a list for credit cards, but don’t dare post it… we’d be far more likely to see the fees implemented with credit cards than with ATMs.)
    As for the inevitable torts that will result from erroneous pepper spray and tasering, I wonder if the OCC will claim preemption on those… (yes, I know, the OCC preemption regs have a tort carve-out, but preventing ATM theft is a matter of bank safety-and-soundness).