In October, a panel at the National Conference of Bankruptcy Judges explored the role of race and implicit bias in the bankruptcy system. Called "The Color of Money: The Implications of Race and Ethnicity in Addressing Debt," the panel included a presentation by yours truly about our research exploring the intersection of race and chapter 13. If you were not at NCBJ, the American Bankruptcy Institute was kind enough to ask me to do a podcast about our research and the updates to it since its original appearance in 2012. The podcast is a little over seventeen minutes long if you want to give it a listen.